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Syria’s
Assad Just Explained How The U.S. Really Works
By
Brandon Turbeville
May
27, 2017 "Information Clearing House" - While Americans endlessly battle each other
over seemingly important choices like Clinton and Trump or Democrats and
Republicans, it is clear that the majority of the population has little
understanding of how the U.S. government operates. Yet, for those who pay the
price for the apathy and confusion of the general population of the West, it
often becomes stunningly obvious that neither presidents nor political parties
in America represent any discernible difference in the ongoing agenda of the
Deep State and the rest of the oligarchical apparatus. Indeed, that agenda
always marches forward regardless of who is president or which political party
is in control.
Syria’s
president Bashar al-Assad has thus had the unique position of not only being on
the receiving end of American imperialism by virtue of not only being a citizen
of a target country but also by being the head of the country, steeped in
politics in his own right and thus understanding how certain factors come into
play at the national level.
With
that in mind, it is worth pointing out a recent statement made by Assad during
the course of an interview regarding the opinion of the Syrian government on
Donald Trump. Assad stated,
The
American President has no policies. There are policies drawn by the American
institutions which control the American regime which are the intelligence
agencies, the Pentagon, the big arms and oil companies, and financial
institutions, in addition to some other lobbies which influence American
decision-making. The American President merely implements these policies, and
the evidence is that when Trump tried to move on a different track, during and
after his election campaign, he couldn’t. He came under a ferocious attack. As we
have seen in the past few week, he changed his rhetoric completely and
subjected himself to the terms of the deep American state, or the deep American
regime. That’s why it is unrealistic and a complete waste of time to make an
assessment of the American President’s foreign policy, for he might say
something; but he ultimately does what these institutions dictate to him. This
is not new. This has been ongoing American policy for decades.
Assad
also addressed the Western media’s portrayal of him as a “devil” who kills and
oppresses his own people. He stated,
Yes,
from a Western perspective, you are now sitting with the devil. This is how
they market it in the West. But this is always the case when a state, a
government, or an individual do not subjugate themselves to their interests,
and do not work for their interests against the interests of their people.
These have been the Western colonial demands throughout history. They say that
this evil person is killing the good people. Okay, if he is killing the good
people, who have been supporting him for the past six years? Neither Russia,
nor Iran, nor any friendly state can support an individual at the expense of
the people. This is impossible. If he is killing the people, how come the
people support him? This is the contradictory Western narrative; and that’s why
we shouldn’t waste our time on Western narratives because they have been full
of lies throughout history, and not something new.
When
asked about the allegations made by the United States that the Syrian
government has retained some stocks of chemical weapons, Assad responded by
saying,
You
and I remember well what happened in 2003, when Colin Powell showed the world
in the United Nations what he claimed to be the evidence which proves that
President Saddam Hussein possessed chemical, nuclear, and other weapons.
However, when the American forces invaded Iraq, it was proven that all he said
was a lie. Powell himself admitted that the American intelligence agencies
deceived him with that false evidence. That wasn’t the first nor will it be the
last time. This means that if you want to be a politician in the United States,
you have to be a genuine liar. This is what characterizes American politicians:
they lie on a daily basis, and say something and do something different. That’s
why we shouldn’t believe what the Pentagon, or any other American institution
says, because they say things which serve their policies, not things which
reflect reality and the facts on the ground.
One
can scarcely argue with Assad’s portrayal of the U.S. government and the
position of the presidency in 2017. After all, Donald Trump campaigned on
keeping America out of foreign wars and the affairs of other countries as well
as the WW3 policy of Hillary Clinton. However, not even four months into his
presidency, Trump launched 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria and the United
States struck a Syrian military convoy en route to liberate the southeast of
the country from terrorists only days ago. The Trump administration has
repeatedly pushed the envelope even further in Syria and provoked fears that
the U.S. aggression in the region and in Asia could result in a confrontation
with a nuclear power much in the same way that Hillary Clinton advocated for
during the campaign.
While
Americans remain more divided than ever and as they ceaselessly argue over
which party and political figurehead is better, the war machine marches onward
not only in Syria but also in Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia and
elsewhere. If Americans are not capable of understanding that there is more to
the system in which they live than two pathetic political parties and clownish
presidential personalities, that war machine will march itself clear across the
globe until it comes back home.
The
transcript of the interview with Bashar al-Assad is included below in this
article. Assad addresses the United States involvement in the Syrian crisis,
the Israeli role, and the attempt to destabilize Venezuela.
teleSUR
(TS): Mr. President, thank you for receiving us.
President
Bashar al-Assad (BA): I welcome you and teleSUR TV in Syria. You are welcome.
TS:
Let’s start directly with the latest developments. Russia has warned that there
might be other alleged chemical attacks. What are the precautionary measures
that Syria has taken in order to prevent that?
BA:
First of all, terrorists have used chemical materials more than once in the
past several years and in more than one region throughout Syria. We have asked
the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) to send
specialized missions to investigate what happened. And every time, the United
States obstructed these investigations or prevented sending such missions in
order to carry out such investigations. This is what happened last week when we
called for investigations over the alleged use of chemical weapons in the town
of Khan Sheikhoun. The United States and its allies prevented OPCW from taking
that decision. As far as we are concerned, we still insist on an investigation,
and we and our Russian and Iranian allies are trying to persuade OPCW to send a
team to investigate what happened, because if it doesn’t, the United States
might repeat the same charade by fabricating the use of false chemical weapons
in another place in Syria in order to justify military intervention in support
of the terrorists. On the other hand, we continue to fight the terrorists,
because we know that the objective of all these American and Western
allegations concerning chemical weapons is to support terrorists in Syria.
That’s why we will continue to fight these terrorists.
TS:
But the Pentagon says that Syria has chemical weapons. Is it true that Syria
has kept one percent of the weapons it has committed itself to hand over and
destroy four years ago?
BA:
You and I remember well what happened in 2003, when Colin Powell showed the
world in the United Nations what he claimed to be the evidence which proves
that President Saddam Hussein possessed chemical, nuclear, and other weapons.
However, when the American forces invaded Iraq, it was proven that all he said
was a lie. Powell himself admitted that the American intelligence agencies
deceived him with that false evidence. That wasn’t the first nor will it be the
last time. This means that if you want to be a politician in the United States,
you have to be a genuine liar. This is what characterizes American politicians:
they lie on a daily basis, and say something and do something different. That’s
why we shouldn’t believe what the Pentagon, or any other American institution
says, because they say things which serve their policies, not things which
reflect reality and the facts on the ground.
TS:
What is the objective behind Syria’s desire to acquire the latest generation of
anti-missile systems from Russia?
BA:
We are already in a state of war with Israel; and Israel has been committing
aggressions on the Arab states surrounding it since its creation in 1948. So,
it’s natural that we should have such systems. However, the terrorists, acting
on Israeli, American, Turkish, Qatari, and Saudi instructions have destroyed
some of these systems. And it is natural for us to negotiate with the Russians
now with a view to strengthening these systems, whether to face any Israeli
threats from the air or the threats of American missiles. That has become a
real possibility after the recent American aggression on al-Shairat airbase in
Syria.
TS:
What is the role that Israel, in particular, has played in this war against
Syria? We know that Israeli attacks against the positions of the Syrian Arab
Army have continued in recent weeks.
BA:
It is playing this role in different forms; first, by direct aggression,
particularly by using warplanes, artillery, or missiles against Syrian Army
positions. Second, it is supporting terrorists in two ways: first by providing
direct support in the form of weapons, and second by providing logistic
support, i.e. allowing them to conduct military exercises in the areas it
controls. It also provides them with medical assistance in its hospitals. These
are not mere claims or assumptions. They are facts, verified and published on
the internet which you can easily access as proven evidence of the Israeli role
in support of the terrorists in Syria.
TS:
How do you assess the current policy of Donald Trump in the world, and in Syria
in particular?
BA:
The American President has no policies. There are policies drawn by the
American institutions which control the American regime which are the
intelligence agencies, the Pentagon, the big arms and oil companies, and
financial institutions, in addition to some other lobbies which influence
American decision-making. The American President merely implements these
policies, and the evidence is that when Trump tried to move on a different
track, during and after his election campaign, he couldn’t. He came under a
ferocious attack. As we have seen in the past few week, he changed his rhetoric
completely and subjected himself to the terms of the deep American state, or
the deep American regime. That’s why it is unrealistic and a complete waste of
time to make an assessment of the American President’s foreign policy, for he
might say something; but he ultimately does what these institutions dictate to
him. This is not new. This has been ongoing American policy for decades.
TS:
The American administration has opened a new front now with North Korea. Is it
possible that this will affect the current American approach towards Syria?
BA:
No, the United States always seeks to control all the states of the world
without exception. It does not accept allies, regardless of whether they are
developed states as those in the Western bloc, or other states of the world.
Every state should be an American satellite. That is why what is happening to
Syria, to Korea, to Iran, to Russia, and maybe to Venezuela now, aims at
re-imposing American hegemony on the world, because they believe that this
hegemony is under threat now, which consequently threatens the interests of
American economic and political elites.
TS:
Russia’s role in the Syrian conflict is very clear; but what is the role of
China, this other great global power?
BA:
There is great cooperation with Russia and China in terms of political action
or political positions. Viewpoints are similar, and there is cooperation in the
Security Council. As you know, the United States and its allies have tried
several times to use the Security Council in order to legitimize the role of
the terrorists in Syria and to legitimize their role in the illegitimate and
aggressive intervention in Syria. That’s why Russia and China stood together,
and China’s role, with the Russian role, was essential in this regard.
Moreover,
some of the terrorists are Chinese nationals who came to Syria through Turkey.
They pose a threat to us in Syria, but they pose an equal threat to China.
China is aware of the fact that terrorism in any place in the world moves to
any other place; and consequently, whether these terrorists are of Chinese or
any other nationality, they might return to China and strike there as they have
done in Europe, in Russia, and in Syria. We are now cooperating with China on
security issues.
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TS:
Western and American media talk now about moderate terrorists and extremist
terrorists. In reality, is there a difference between the two groups?
BA:
For them, a moderate terrorist is that who carries out acts of beheading and
slaughter but without carrying al-Qaeda flag, or without saying “Allah Akbar,”
while an extremist terrorist is that who carries the flag and says Allah Akbar
when carrying out acts of beheading and slaughter. This is the only difference.
For the United States, all those who serve its political agenda against other
states are classified as moderate opposition and not as extremist and
terrorist, even if they commit the worst acts of terrorism. They are freedom
fighters and not fighters in the cause of destruction and sabotage.
TS:
There have been six years of war in Syria. What is Syria’s position now,
particularly in the absence of statistics about human losses?
BA:
The most painful loss in any war is human loss, the suffering which is
inflicted any family when it loses one of its members; for the whole family is
scarred for life. This is the natural feeling in a region like ours, where
family ties are very strong. Nothing compensates that loss, and nothing exceeds
the pain it causes. There are of course huge economic and infrastructure
losses, but this infrastructure has been built for a little over 50 years by
Syrian hands, not foreign hands. And we have the capacity to rebuild this
infrastructure. The same goes for the economy, for the Syrian economy is based
on Syrian capabilities first and foremost; and our economic ties with the West
have always been limited. When the war is over, it will all be rebuilt. We do
not have a problem with that. It is true that it takes time, but it is not
impossible. So, the greatest and most painful loss for Syria is the human loss.
TS:
Of the 86 states constituting the alliance waging war on Syria, are there any
that would take part in the process of reconstruction?
BA:
No, of course not. First of all, they do not want to rebuild Syria, but some
companies in those countries, if they see that the wheel of the economy and
rebuilding has started to turn, and since they are opportunists, they are
certainly prepared to come and have a share of rebuilding Syria in order to
make money. The Syrian people will certainly not accept this. All the states
which stood against the Syrian people and took part in the destruction and
sabotage will never take part in rebuilding Syria. That is final.
TS:
But how was life during these past six years in this besieged country?
BA:
Life has certainly been tough to every Syrian citizen. The terrorists have
destroyed the infrastructure. In certain areas, electricity is on for one or
two hours, and there are areas in which there’s no electricity at all. There
are areas in which electricity has been cut off for more than two or three
years. People don’t know television, children do not go to school, there are no
medical clinics or hospitals, and nobody treats the ill. They live a
prehistoric existence thanks to the terrorists. There are areas which did not
have water for years, like what happened in Aleppo, which did not have water
for many long years. Sometimes, they use polluted water for drinking, washing
up, and other purposes. Life has been very tough.
TS:
One of the main targets during these years has been the person of Bashar
al-Assad. Have you ever felt fear during these years?
BA:
When you are in the middle of the war, you do not feel fear. I believe this is
something common to all people. But you have a general concern for the
homeland; for what is the value of being safe, as an individual, as a citizen,
while the country is under threat? You cannot feel safe. I believe that the
feeling we have in Syria in general is concern for the future of Syria rather
than personal fear. The evidence is that mortar shells fall anywhere, on any
house; nevertheless, you see that life continues in Syria. The will to life is
much stronger than personal fear. As a President, I take strength from the
feelings of the general public, not from my personal feelings. I do not live in
isolation from the others.
TS:
Western media have been waging a media campaign against you. Am I sitting now
with this devil portrayed by the media?
BA:
Yes, from a Western perspective, you are now sitting with the devil. This is
how they market it in the West. But this is always the case when a state, a
government, or an individual do not subjugate themselves to their interests,
and do not work for their interests against the interests of their people.
These have been the Western colonial demands throughout history. They say that
this evil person is killing the good people. Okay, if he is killing the good
people, who have been supporting him for the past six years? Neither Russia,
nor Iran, nor any friendly state can support an individual at the expense of
the people. This is impossible. If he is killing the people, how come the
people support him? This is the contradictory Western narrative; and that’s why
we shouldn’t waste our time on Western narratives because they have been full
of lies throughout history, and not something new.
TS:
What can Syria, too, do in order to put an end to this war ahead of the sixth
round of Geneva talks?
BA:
We said that there are two axes: the first is fighting the terrorists; and this
is not subject to any discussion, and we don’t have any other choice in dealing
with the terrorists except fighting them. The other axis, the political one,
includes two points: first, dialogue with the different political forces over
the future of Syria; and second: local reconciliations, in the sense that we
negotiate with the terrorists in a certain village or city, depending on each
case separately. The objective of this reconciliation is for them to lay down
their weapons and receive an amnesty from the state, and consequently return to
their normal life. This approach has been implemented during the past three or
four years, has succeeded, and is ongoing now. These are the axes which we can
work on in order to find a solution to the Syrian crisis.
TS:
From the perspective of a country in a state of war, how do you see the
situation in Latin America, particularly in Venezuela, where a number of acts
very similar to those which caused the conflict in Syria have emerged?
BA:
Of course, they should be similar, because the party planning and implementing
these acts is the same. It is the United States as a maestro and the Western
states constituting the choir. Latin America in general, and Venezuela in
particular, used to be the backyard of the United States for decades. Through
that backyard, Western states, particularly North America, or the United
States, used to secure their economic interests through the influence of the
big companies in your countries. Military or political coups in Latin America
during the 1960s and the 1970s aimed at perpetuating American hegemony over the
interests of your people. But Latin America freed itself during the past twenty
years and gained its independent decision-making. Governments started defending
the interests of their peoples, which is unacceptable to the United States.
That’s why they are exploiting what’s happening in the world, starting with the
orange revolution in Ukraine up to the recent coup there a few years ago, and
what is taking place in the Arab countries, in Libya, Syria, Yemen and others,
in order to implement it in Latin America. They started in Venezuela with the
objective of overthrowing the national government, and it will spread over to
other Latin American countries.
TS:
Some people, particularly ordinary citizens in Latin America, think that a
scenario similar to what’s happening in Syria could be repeated in Latin
America. What do you think?
BA:
This is true. That’s why I say since the party planning and implementing is the
same, it’s natural that the scenario is not only similar, but identical. Some
local elements might be different. In Syria, they said in the beginning that
there were peaceful demonstrations, but in fact, when these peaceful
demonstrations did not spread wide enough, they implanted individuals who fired
on both sides, on the police and the demonstrations, and there were casualties.
They started to say that the state is killing the people, and this scenario is
being repeated everywhere. The same scenario will be repeated in Venezuela.
That’s why the Venezuelan people have to be very careful. There is a difference
between opposing the government and being against the homeland, a huge
difference. On the other hand, no foreign state can be more concerned about
Venezuela’s interests than the Venezuelan people themselves. Do not believe the
West, for it’s not concerned either about human rights or about the interests
of states. It is only concerned about the interests of part of the governing
elites in its countries. And these governing elites are not necessarily
politicians, they are economic companies too.
TS:
I’m talking about Latin America, Venezuela, the Bolivarian Revolution which was
your strong ally. How do you remember the late Hugo Chavez?
BA:
President Chavez was a world-class distinguished personality. When we talk
about Latin America, we immediately remember the late President Chavez and the
late leader Fidel Castro, the leader of the Cuban Revolution. They are
distinguished personalities who changed the face of Latin America. But of
course the leader I knew personally and whom I met more than once and had a
personal relationship with was President Chavez, when he visited us in Syria
and I visited him in Venezuela. He visited us twice. When you meet him, you can
tell that he is the son of the people. You do not feel that you are meeting a president
or a politician, but a person who lived the suffering of his people. Everything
he said, and every minute of his time, was about the details related to the
people of his country. And when he talked with a head of another state, or an
official from another state, he always thought of how to create common
interests which reflect positively on his people. He was a real and strongly
charismatic leader. And he was an extremely genuine person.
TS:
They demonized Chavez before; and it is clear that it is Nicolas Maduro’s turn
now.
BA:
Of course, as long as President Maduro is walking the same patriotic line, the
line of Venezuela’s independence, and acting in the best interest of his
country’s people, it is natural that he should be the first target of the
United States. This is self-evident.
TS:
How does Bashar al-Assad envision the end of the war?
BA:
Today, foreign intervention in Syria aside, the problem is not complicated, for
the majority of the Syrians are tired of the war and want a solution. They want
to return to safety and stability. There is a dialogue between us as Syrians,
there are meetings, and people live with each other, i.e. there is no real
barrier. The problem now is that with every step we make towards a solution and
regaining stability, the terrorist gangs receive more money and weapons in
order to blow the situation up. That’s why I can say that the solution should
be stopping outside support to the terrorists. As far as we are concerned in
Syria, reconciliation among all Syrians, and forgetting and forgiving all that
happened in the past throughout this war, is the way to restore safety to
Syria. Rest assured that Syria will be then much stronger than it was before
the war.
TS:
Are you prepared to have reconciliation with those who carried arms against the
Syrian people?
BA:
Of course, and this has actually happened in many and different places, and
some of them have fought side by side with the Syrian Army, some fell martyrs,
and some returned to their cities and live in the part under government
control. We don’t have a problem. Tolerance is essential to end any war. And we
are proceeding on that track.
TS:
Mr. President, what is your message to Latin America and the world?
BA:
Keep your independence. We, in the Arab region, are celebrating independence in
more than one country. But this independence used to mean, in a number of
countries in the region, the mere evacuation of occupying forces. But real
independence happens when you are in possession of your national
decision-making. For us, Latin America was a model of independence, in the
sense that occupiers were evacuated, in case there were foreign forces, but at
the same time there was national decision-making, openness, and democracy. You
provided the world with an important model. So, keep it, because if the
countries of the third and developing world wanted to develop, they should
follow the model implemented in Latin America.
TS:
Mr. President, thank you for giving teleSUR this interview, and thank you for
your precious time and all the information that you have provided.
BA:
Thank you for coming, and once again I welcome you in Damascus.
Brandon
Turbeville – article archive here – is the author of seven books. Turbeville’s radio show Truth on The Tracks
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